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'Hi, too sick to train this week'

'Hey ok, sorry your not feeling well. As a once off, we can do 2 sessions next wk if u want? So u dont hav to pay for weds. Its up to u?'

'Hi, will pay you for this week but won't be booking another session. Thanks'

SENT. LET'S SEE WHAT HE SAYS. I just find it all a bit distasteful!!

Edit: 'Hey, sorry can i ask u why?'

Edit #2: J's suggestion for reply:

"I think you need to be more flexible with your best client, who isn'ta fattie and makes you look good... And now I have lost faith in whether you really care. I'm sorry, it's over. Don't call me ever again."

Edit #3: I haven't replied his answer yet, but he just sent:

'hey if i upset u then i apologise. That was not my intention. i dont want to charge u for weds, thats why i was trying to move session to antoher day or next wk. i know your sick this wk. sorry again. hope you accept my apology'


on 2009-07-17 04:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]

"yeah cuz you're anal and aren't flexible the circumstances"

on 2009-07-17 04:59 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
But seriously... I think you can get a better deal with another trainer anyway. I used to only pay $50 in Melbourne for an hour session - he was SO cheap, but he was the BEST! Everyone else charged $65-ish.

Anyway, yeah... look around, you can find someone a bit more compatible and worth it.

on 2009-07-17 05:20 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
yeah, it's cause this dude is at my gym (I go to the Hilton gym). I can take or leave personal training tbh - cause I'm quite driven myself and enjoy reading about things. it was just good i think to have that guidance once a week and well, PSFG was doing well under him.

i'm just so pissed off!!!

on 2009-07-17 05:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
i think i'm gonna spend my new funds from PT on:

* kettlebells
* resistance bands
* more nike workout gear

on 2009-07-17 08:22 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
I think these are GREAT things to spend money on.

Kettlebells are *insane* and the first time I used them I nearly spewed. Hooray!

on 2009-07-19 07:57 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
resistance bands = KICK ASS!!
its what my trainer has been teaching me the past few sessions

i want to do kettlebells!

on 2009-07-18 11:51 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
$50 in melb!?! where?? which gym??

on 2009-07-18 12:28 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
make sure they hae proper insurance!!

on 2009-07-17 05:59 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
blah sounds like he needs it spelled out to him .... !

on 2009-07-17 06:02 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
i agree - but don't want to sound hysterical. too sick to think of something succinct and to the point :(

on 2009-07-17 06:03 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
tomorrow at work do some work for free for your longest standing client.

i don't get what the issue is, you went into it knowing the standard fees/set up for a personal trainer, so wear it.

on 2009-07-17 06:07 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
this is the thing, i do work for free for my longest standing clients. if my client's account gets overdrawn am i going to say 'hi, please pay $50 for the overdrawn fee' even though i'm entitled to, if they're a good client and earn me good revenue?

i know it's what i agreed to, but i think you gotta take a common sense approach to it. hence the last post to get a 'vox pop' feel - most people seemed to agree with me.

anyway, i am going to wear it - but i'm just not going to see him anymore so I don't have to agree to his terms. which is why i will pay the $80 for this week.

on 2009-07-17 06:21 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
is this guy employed by your gym? if so, maybe the $80 cancellation comes straight out of his paycheck?

he seems fairly reasonable in trying to make sure you dont pay this week for nothing. i reckon you could at least explain to him why you are discontinuing. if it really is reasonable for him to waive the fee for the week, despite the agreement (and from the responses you got i gather it is? i don't know how this PT/Client relationship shiz works ;)) then perhaps he will agree to do it...

on 2009-07-17 06:48 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
i pay the $80 straight to him, so he doesn't get penalised at all.

i don't know, perhaps i am overreacting - but i just think i've seen him for so many months and if he really wants to insist on $80 for one missed session when i'm sick as a dog, then fine. if he wants to stick to the rules to the letter, he can have it. he can just miss out on all my future income.

on 2009-07-18 12:11 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
absolutely.. if you dont do favours for good clients, they up and leave. being a regular client should buy you liberties in extraordinary circumstances.. especially when he's charging like a bitch in the first place.

at diners, we'd always be going above and beyond for big clients. it's just a given.

on 2009-07-18 12:33 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
exactly. if he wants to be counting, i'll show him counting.

this has upset me so much more than i thought - i summarise it down to it:
a) showing no concern for my health vs my bucks
b) not being flexible
c) his sheer stupidity in valuing $80 for a missed session vs long term custom

ARGH. i still haven't told him why. am going to send him a fairly passive aggressive message tomorrow which says that he's a great trainer and he's given me the confidence to pursue my finess on my own. end. if he can't read between the lines, then fine. i don't give a shit. i'll leave the cash for him at the desk.

on 2009-07-18 12:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
and at the end of the day, the money PTs are making/charging is ridiculous for the service that they provide. the internet and an ounce of determination and you'll save yourself the bucks.

im actually annoyed that my last payment had already gone through for my next block of 10 sessions with my PT. though, after having had all of this time off, it will be good to go back to some intense sessions with him, to get me back in the mood.

on 2009-07-17 06:09 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
I don't get it?

Are we discussing the time limit requirement for cancelling without paying? IS there a requirement to pay if you cancel? How does a PT agreement work? Me = clueless :D (benefit of not having expendable cash enuf to pay for PT)

on 2009-07-17 06:12 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
technically, he said if you cancel, he'll let you reschedule within the week without paying. but i'm too sick to reschedule this week.

HOWEVER, i feel that as a long term client you should be pragmatic and go 'hey, you're sick as a dog, don't worry about this week, see you next week'.

most people seem to agree with me? either way, i agreed to pay if i didn't go this week (so I will pay) but fk seeing him in future. i need a trainer who is a little more flexible and understanding.

on 2009-07-17 06:28 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
Yeah I don't get this. If you give more than 24hr notice, then you should be able to cancel. Most appointments work like that. I reckon psychologists would work that way, why is a personal trainer special?

on 2009-07-17 07:12 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
well, he is letting me cancel, but insisting i make up the session this week to avoid having to pay for it or having 2 sessions next week to 'make up' for it. i don't know, i just feel press ganged into it and if he feels that they are the only 2 options he can offer me, then fine. i will pay him $80 and cut him loose.

on 2009-07-17 08:25 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
it's not like you're on a contract with him and required to go once a week, right?? Cuz if you're not, you should be able to say "hey i'm having a week off, see you next week" without being charged consistantly. I can understand that he relies on his clients being regular etc to earn money, but you've given plenty of notice!
He can't just charge you for a missed week unless you have some kind of debit system set up - just pay cash, he can't physically take the money out of your hands.

on 2009-07-17 08:41 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
well, technically the arrangement was that if you cancel a session, he'll let you do another session in the same week and if you can't, then you have to pay regardless or not if you have the session.

so, technically, i agreed to this and since i didn't follow this (cause I couldn't do the session on Saturday cause I'm sick), I do owe him $80.

I just think that on a common sense/client relationship perspective that you should maybe let this slide the one week and let me just not pay one week and go back to training as normal from next week on. he more wants to charge me because i was meant to see him this wednesday and i postponed it and couldn't do the session this week (cause i'm dying).

so no, he can't get the cash off me and could technically sue me for it i guess (ha). but if he wants to be technical about it, i'll be technical about it. technically, i owe him $80. technically, i'll pay it. realistically, i'm pissed at him for being petty over the $80 and I'll realistically sack him.

i don't think this is an unreasonable expectation that you would let this one slide??

on 2009-07-17 08:50 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
"then you have to pay regardless or not if you have the session."

I don't agree with this unless you've actually signed a written contract. You can agree to whatever he says all you like, but I don't think you are forced to pay anything... that's not how business works. "technically" if he wants to you pay for this week's missed session, he should have contracts set up with his clients.

on 2009-07-17 06:45 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
Seems like he's appreciative of your business and is being belatedly flexible, from his latest text? Not a total greedy bastard . . .

on 2009-07-17 07:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
it feels like he's realised he's pissed me off and is trying to back pedal. i'm sick, tired and a bit grumpy at everything - so i could reflect that i may not be my usual sunny self today.

on 2009-07-17 07:18 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
Well, just don't let your foul mood compromise the integrity of Project Sweet Fucking Guns. It's bigger than you and me.

on 2009-07-17 08:35 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
wise words. it's not bigger than you and me...but one day, OH YES, one day :)

on 2009-07-17 07:10 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
Sounds like major back-pedalling to me. Too little, too late, my friend.

on 2009-07-17 07:16 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
that's what i reckon - i'm so disappointed by this whole turn of affairs. just trying to figure out how to succinctly say why i'm pissed without being irrational.

will text you tomorrow with how i am going with the illness.

on 2009-07-18 12:17 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
big time back pedalling.. i like the way my trainer deals with it (ive had to cancel on him twice). he guilts me, to make sure im not just being a pussy, then he works me harder at the next session.

he knows that ive got the money, and that he's my bitch.. not vice-versa.

on 2009-07-18 12:34 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
IKR? I wouldn't have minded if it was like a month in or something, but after 6 - 7 months, and $XX spent, you think you would look past the $80.

i'm going to spend the $$$ on other things. i'd happily pay someone to just drill the hell out of me for ball and turn me into a ball handling machine!! maybe i should go and put a notice on the board...

on 2009-07-18 12:47 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
if i was a sydneysider, or if you were a melabournian, i'd arrange some sort of swap with you.. i'd give you basketball lessons, you give me food/gym/fish/etc advice!

on 2009-07-18 12:54 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
man, that'd be sweet. i'd be more than happy to do the diet thing with someone because it's something i'm really interested in. I've been contemplating Project Committing to Abs (PCTA) and had fricken Excel open tonight to detemrine what calories/nutrients I'd have to get as a percentage of my daily calories to my body weight etc. It's still planning stage, because I can't even commit to trying at the moment let alone actually achieving. PSFG still remains the biggest project on hand!!!!!

I'm trying to dribble more, but people always steal the ball away from me. I think i need someone who would just drill me on dribbling and not being scared and just driving through people!!!

so good to see you the other day and meet the missus.

on 2009-07-18 01:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile]
without having seen you, get your arse lower to the ground (more bend in the knees) and dribble lower. in my book, there isnt much difference between good offensive and good defensive stance.

also work on your V dribbles.. standing high and low.. do them in front in both hands, and on each side. look for speed in doing them and try and practice them at a pace where you're about to lose control of the ball.

was also good to catch up with you.. albeit a brief one. will try not to leave it a year between yarns this time!


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